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 Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: Ramming Q |
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Ok, so this came up in my second game with Nick (the one where he wasn't being a dick).
I was reading over the scenario and you get experience for any penetrating hit.
So my question is, does the damage caused by ramming count towards this?
I ask because I rammed him and we both caused 6 penetrating hits which would be a nice bit of xp, especially since I sacked the first mob and this was the first game with the second mob. |
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as far as I know theres no exp given when ramming.
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I'd have to agree with Sean, It's a bit too easy to get pens by ramming. I don't see anything saying that we can get XP from rams, so I would have to say we don't get XP from them.
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| I'd have to agree with Sean, It's a bit too easy to get pens by ramming. I don't see anything saying that we can get XP from rams, so I would have to say we don't get XP from them. |
Yea, thats how me and stwert did it, because the driver isnt the one causing the dmg (per say) its the trukk thats doing the hurting. |
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Mark
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| To play devil's advocate, it is the driver's action when moving the trukk and, otherwise, how will the driver ever get xp other than end of scenario bonuses? He won't cause wounds, he won't pick up loot, etc. |
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kalador101
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An interesting point. Let's get a bunch of us together this Saturday and decide on a 'House Rule" on this. Either all our mobs get the XP, or none. no point in having us guess. Also if we do this, then we need to roll the wrecking ball separately, as there is a separate operator for that. We also need to decide what happens when the wrecking ball is hit and a 6 is rolled, does the person causing the first penetrating hit get credit for the pens caused by the wrecking ball?
Many interesting things to ponder.
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| Yup, this is the fun with 2nd ed Specialist stuff, basically it provides the framework and you can write the rules you want since the ones included are completely unclear. |
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Just to point this out though, you only ever get a max of 5 exp points for penetrating hits, no matter how many you actually cause. It's just you get a bonus 5 if you've caused pen hits that game, and the same goes for wounds too.
Just 'cause Mark mentioned 6 pen hits being a "nice bit of xp". When Sean and I played, we played a rumble match in which my Nob caused 15 penetrating hits and wounds, which would've totalled 75 exp points. That seemed a little over the top, so we checked, and it was.
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Yeah, that's what I meant, but don't worry about anything from before this 'revelation', everyone else was doing the same thing, and it didn't seem implausible until I just *happened* to deal 15 with my nob alone in a Rumble scenerio.
[useless gloat] That's what happens when you mess with a real Morker!  [/gloating]
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Seems like a fair enough rule that you get the 5 xp for casing a pen if you do so. Now for a slightly different question:
If I shoot at a vehicle, roll Crew/Driver, Pen the Vehicle, and then wound my target...is that 5 xp or 10?
The rules seem to say that you get 5 XP of you cause a wound and 5 if you pen a vehicle. So, can one shot get both? Another Variation could be if you fired a Big Shoota and scored an incredible 6 pens and manage to take 6 Orks Out of Action. Is there any difference between the first and the second in terms of XP?
Something to ponder.
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I'd be alright with allowing both since you still can't get more than 5 from each of wounds and penetrating hits, so that'd just be your max for the game right there. And it is still the same orks shot.
Don't think there's any difference in exp between the two...since you can only get 5pts/game from wounding and 5pts/game from penetrating, doesn't really matter how many you manage to take out. Except of course your opponent is now down a lot of orks!
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I'd be alright with allowing both since you still can't get more than 5 from each of wounds and penetrating hits, so that'd just be your max for the game right there. And it is still the same orks shot.
Don't think there's any difference in exp between the two...since you can only get 5pts/game from wounding and 5pts/game from penetrating, doesn't really matter how many you manage to take out. Except of course your opponent is now down a lot of orks! |
Yea im going to agree with goeff on this one.
I asked sean to make a rules sub section so that we can post threds for rulings about different rules questions we have encountered.
Every week im going to print them out so we have a guide to refer to, so as to make the games run smoother.
Thats what these practice games are for so get out there and play more of them you weedy gits!!! |
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